Combinatorics at Strathclyde, 2

Below the line is a petition in support of the Combinatorics group at the University of Strathclyde. Below that are instructions for supporting this petition. Time is short, and we have not been able to organise a more sophisticated method of signing.


We the undersigned express our extreme concern at the proposal by the Computer and Information Sciences department at the University of Strathclyde to close the highly successful Combinatorics group in the department.

The group, though small (three members of staff), has a very strong track record. They produced 35% of the department’s 4* papers in the current REF, earning nearly a million pounds of REF and grant income in the last four years. Members of the group have held important administrative positions in the department. Also, in 2017, the group organised the high-profile and successful British Combinatorial Conference.

The department feels that Discrete Mathematics can be taught by members of staff in other research areas such as Mathematically Structured Programming, Data Analytics and Cybersecurity. We feel that this underestimates the role of Discrete Mathematics in Computer Science, and point out the dangers of having a fundamental subject taught by non-specialists.

Last year, the Bond report on “The Era of Mathematics” pointed to the importance of mathematics underpinning our economy and society, and examples and scope for knowledge exchange in all parts of mathematics, and made a case for significant increases in funding, especially at the PhD and postdoctoral level. We imagine that the Combinatorics group at Strathclyde would be well placed to benefit from this. We believe that it is never a good time for a university to withdraw from such an important area of Computer Science and Mathematics, but the timing here seems particularly bad.

We urge the department to reconsider this recommendation.


If you wish to support this petition, please email Peter Cameron (pjc20@st-andrews.ac.uk), simply giving your name and University affiliation (if you have one) and the statement “I support this petition”. I will do the rest.

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19 Responses to Combinatorics at Strathclyde, 2

  1. Please forgive me if I don’t acknowledge your emails individually — and thank you to all who have already responded.

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  2. I support the petition!

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  3. Dong Ye says:

    I support this petition!

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  4. Thank you everyone who has signed already. I have 240 signatures already, and there are more waiting in the queue for me to process; I can scarcely keep up with things. The signatures range from Fields medallists to PhD students, directors of institutes to postdocs. Keep them coming!

    Thank you too for the comments that some of you have included; these will get passed on with the petition. Let me just quote one in full, from Aylin Cakiroglu:

    As of September, I will join a very successful company in London called BenevolentAI that exploits data for drug discovery. Of course, much of the work in computational biology I have done in the past 5 years made me a great candidate, but I know that they were particularly interested in me because of my research experience in graph theory – in fact much of their work is based on a knowledge graph. In addition, much of the data has variables that are in relation to each other (for example drugs and side effects) and a new direction of deep learning is exploiting these as so-called graph neural networks.

    Many of the skills I will need to understand current approaches and build on them to develop new methods in a mathematically robust way I have learned during my undergraduate and PhD. This is not to say that my new colleagues will have specialised in a plethora of research fields, but companies like BenevolentAI recognise the need for a diverse workforce and research – including combinatorics. It would be a shame if Strathclyde university shuts itself and it’s undergraduates off from developing in this field which will generate impactful research in the next decade with applications particularly in deep learning.

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  5. Shubham Namdeo says:

    I strongly support this petition as Discrete Mathematics (in particular combinatorics) constitutes a fundamental part of Mathematics. Combinatorics is the first opportunity for many school and college students to encounter beautiful formulaes related to counting, summations, and calculating possibilites in many games (Cards, Chess, Ludo, Dices etc.) etc. Further, its application leads to various current research topics in the field of Pure Mathematics, Computer Science, Neuroscience, Artificial Intelligence, Criminology, Chemistry etc. Hence the subject has a great richness and deapth of conceptual understanding and it must be taught by a person who have an excellent exposoure and practical experience of the subject.

    Thanks and regards,
    Shubham Namdeo

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  6. John Hammer says:

    i support the petition

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  7. Pascal Kwanten says:

    I fully consent to this petition.

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  8. Pingback: Strathclyde CS department plans to close small but successful combinatorics research group, thoughts? - Nevin Manimala's Blog

  9. Mike Whittaker says:

    I support this petition.

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  10. Aaron Robertson says:

    I support this petition.

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  11. Bohdan hejna says:

    I support the petition in the favour of the continuing the work of this valuable group.
    Dr. Ing. Bohdan Hejna, ICT Prague

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  12. Henry Crapo says:

    I support this petition.

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  13. Please note that, for operational reasons, this petition will be closed on Monday, 1 July. If you would like to sign, please do so before 5pm (BST) on Monday.

    Many thanks to the more than 500 who have signed already. Permit me to quote another comment I have received, from Rachel Traylor:

    I’d like to express my formal and professional support for the combinatorics
    research group at the University of Strathclyde. I’m aware that departments
    are always facing budgetary issues and sometimes have to make tough decisions.
    However, I believe the closing of this research group to be a long-term
    mistake in general. The value of mathematicians doesn’t evaporate with the
    progression of technology and technologists. If anything, those fundamental
    experts become more valuable.

    The value of mathematics research is many-fold. Firstly, the financial
    long-term value is one of the greatest of all disciplines. Pick any
    technology today, and its current form would not exist without the
    mathematics that formed its foundation, even if those foundations were
    laid decades prior. Mathematics may not be the sexy landscaping people
    see from the curb, but it’s the reason the houses stand. Don’t sacrifice
    the foundation.

    Secondly, as in all pure sciences, the discipline has intangible value as
    well. A strong set of pure mathematics adds to the prestige of the university
    (which does have secondary financial benefits), as well as provides good
    support to the rest of the departments and the university itself. Students
    taking mathematics courses from mathematics professors will benefit from our
    unique perspective in the long run.

    Finally, the value of mathematics has a human element. Just like the world
    would be more stale without art, literature, and music, we would lose some
    of our humanity without pure mathematics. Mathematics departments will never
    be as large a profit margin as a business or law school; that’s a fact. But
    more beyond that, pure mathematics lets us explore and create, just as art
    and music do. It’s part of who we are as a species, and the inspiration pure
    mathematics provides as well as its inherent beauty helps to bind humanity
    together in a good way. It inspires artists, engineers, technologists,
    teachers, and many others.

    The department may be forced into a terrible choice from administrative
    pressure. If that is the case, please let my testimony be considered to help
    argue what may be an administrative ultimatum.

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  14. Nicos Georgiou says:

    I support this petition!

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  15. Katrin Leschke says:

    I strongly support the petition!

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  16. Jacob White says:

    I support the petition.

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  17. Hugh Thomas says:

    Is there any further news as to what is happening to the Combinatorics group?

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    • I learned yesterday that the members of the combinatorics group in the Computer and Information Sciences department will be moved to the Mathematics department. Probably the best outcome in the circumstances. I had no official response to the petition, not even an acknowledgement, so I don’t know whether it had any effect.

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